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PostSubject: infinite space   Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:40 am

if space is infinite, that must mean it's growing, right??
what's space growing in to?? :/
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PostSubject: Re: infinite space   Sat May 01, 2010 8:51 am

There once were 2 bugs inside an inflated balloon. The balloon was slowly being inflated and one bug asked the other "I wonder what's outside the balloon?"

Mathmatically, space and time need each other to exist. Outside the universe, there is no time, therefore, we can probably assume there's no space either. There's nothing. We have to rethink the definition of nothing to even get close to understanding the kind of nothing that exists (or doesn't exist actually) outside the universe.

We often think of nothing as a lack of anything. Well actually that's completely true. But what about deep space? (inside the universe) Isn't that nothing also? It's dark, void, no air, no light, no matter, so isn't it nothing? No, it still has time and space at that spot. Those are 2 things. Now subtract those 2 things, that's true nothing. That's what's outside the universe.

So does that mean if we got in a spaceship and sped into the edge of the universe, would he slam into the nothing and bounce off? If we did, wouldn't that be something, like a wall? More likely, we would simply cease to exist as we moved into the nothing. Or maybe the ship would simply push against the edge of space and not move forward any faster than the speed of the universe's expansion.

Doesn't make sense does it? It should, but it doesn't. Why doesn't it make sense? Why can't the universe be inifintely large? Why does it have limits? Is there a sign at the edge of the universe that says "This area under construction - God" ? A logical deduction could be that the reason why these bizarre paradoxical limits exist, is because it's just not real. It's, we, the galaxies, space, and time, are just data inside an inconceivabley advanced computer running a simulation. But the computer has limitations and cannot simulate a true infinite universe. So it's math stops at the edge. And beyond that, are points where no more data can exist (until it gets upgraded).
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PostSubject: Re: infinite space   Sat May 01, 2010 9:09 am

that is so awesome ^_^ u really made me think about it, and i'm literally confused :/ lol
i think ur right too about the nothing..
that's such a good post :)

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PostSubject: Re: infinite space   Sat May 01, 2010 6:12 pm

Thanks. I like to think about that kind of stuff all the time.
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PostSubject: Re: infinite space   Tue May 04, 2010 3:34 am

u must have a lot going on inside ur head..:/

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PostSubject: Re: infinite space   Wed May 05, 2010 10:34 pm

The universe makes no sense. =) Time really makes things confusing. I think as you got to the edge of the universe, you approach the edge of time - so, you'll begin to slow down, and perhaps even reach a maximum speed. The speed the universe is growing at.
Or, maybe like when you watch someone fly into a black hole. For the person watching, they just slow down until they stop. But for the person flying, they keep going until they're crushed.
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PostSubject: Re: infinite space   Fri May 07, 2010 7:24 am

It is one of those mysteries that will never be answered,
Due to the nature of the universe, there will always be some questions that can never be answered.

Assume you reached the end of the universe.
You are a creature of this universe.
Your body is defined by it's parameters.
Upon reaching the expansion frontier, you would simply add to it, lterally creating more space/time because that is required for you to exist.

The frontier would always be there in front of you, and all you could observe would be appearently empty space.

You would become part of the expansion, but you would have no way of realizing it.
Space/time would simply be wherever you go.
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